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Speaker 1

00:00

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Speaker 2

00:02

And so he just goes along with all the woke nonsense because he doesn't want to fight that wing of his party. He can't afford to have a battle on the left. So that's my big issue with him.

Speaker 2

00:15

I know you have others.

Speaker 1

00:16

Well, my biggest issue is he lies a lot and he's probably... Well certainly not more than Trump.

Speaker 2

00:24

Oh please.

Speaker 1

00:26

Well listen I think they both lie. I mean I don't like that more than this guy because I want to just if you want to talk about Trump, we could talk about Trump, but if you just talk about Biden, I don't think comparing him to Trump does anybody any good. You should just look at the police situation.

Speaker 2

00:40

Well, it does because they're running against each other.

Speaker 1

00:42

Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2

00:43

So it's kind of necessary.

Speaker 1

00:44

It could when, if you want to talk about in terms of an election, but you talk about the terms of the guy who's in the Office right now, like why don't I like him? Well, 1 of the things that I don't like has nothing to do with any of his choices is that he's mentally compromised I think there's something wrong and I think it's clear

Speaker 2

00:59

as if the other guy isn't

Speaker 1

01:00

well, okay. He speaks much clearer He he might be crazy. It might be a sociopath.

Speaker 2

01:05

He's crazy and stupid

Speaker 1

01:06

say all those things but it still doesn't take away from the fact that there's something wrong with Biden. Like he makes up words, he stumbles through things, It seems like he doesn't know where he is half the time. He's very very old.

Speaker 1

01:18

That's my problem with him.

Speaker 2

01:19

Okay. Well again We're living in a world where perfect is not on the menu. These are the choices We're gonna have this is gonna be who's running next time. You're gonna have a yes a doddering old man

Speaker 1

01:32

Do you definitely think that Biden's going to make it to the 2024 elections? Because I'm not convinced.

Speaker 2

01:36

Well, who knows? Yeah, he might not. And some might not Trump.

Speaker 1

01:41

Right. Both of them could die at any minute now. When you're like 70-whatever years old, 78 years

Speaker 2

01:47

old. 1 is 77, 1 is 80.

Speaker 1

01:49

Yeah, that's the end of the line. Yeah. Yeah, I mean you're on E.

Speaker 1

01:52

I mean, right? I mean, you might make it to town, but you might die on the side of the road. There's also blue

Speaker 2

01:58

zones where people live to 100. They don't look like those guys. No, they look better.

Speaker 1

02:04

Yeah, they're thin and active. Well, Biden's thin.

Speaker 2

02:07

That's true. Trump is not.

Speaker 1

02:08

But he's thin like skeletal thin. Yeah. Like he's thin like frail.

Speaker 1

02:13

Yeah. Like where he looks like he's just going to fall down a lot.

Speaker 2

02:15

I'll give you this point. Trump looks a lot and sounds a lot more Hearty yeah, and robust yeah, and healthy. That's true.

Speaker 2

02:23

He's a he's a city roach he Eat the worst things he eats the stronger he gets you can you cannot kill him no I

Speaker 1

02:32

Also, the only guy that didn't noticeably age the moment he got into the White House.

Speaker 2

02:36

No, we did. We aged when he was in office. He was fine, you're right.

Speaker 2

02:41

He didn't look like he aged. He just still, he always looks the same. But he's a criminal, and he's crazy, and he's stupid. And crazy and stupid are 2 different things.

Speaker 2

02:51

When

Speaker 1

02:51

you say crazy, what do you basically mean?

Speaker 2

02:53

Okay, let me give you an example. Stupid is like Frederick Douglass is alive. Or the stealth bomber is literally invisible.

Speaker 2

03:04

Or nobody knew healthcare was hard to solve. That's just stupid. He's very stupid. Crazy is like, it's important that the crowd at my inauguration was the biggest ever, and I'm gonna make an issue of this for the first 2 weeks of my presidency, despite photographic evidence to the contrary.

Speaker 2

03:26

Or I'm going to steal these documents that I don't even know what they are and I don't care and I'm gonna put him next to the toilet at Mar-a-Lago And then I'm gonna fight you to take them back or not conceding the election Those things are crazy or thinking I can somehow charm Kim Jong-un in Korea, although that might be stupid Sometimes it crosses the line between both. But he's both stupid and crazy, and he's a criminal. You know, he's not being charged in these trials because he's a liar. They purposely didn't do that.

Speaker 2

03:58

Apparently it's okay, It's not illegal to lie to the American people. And of course he did lie and continues to lie. He still hasn't conceded the election, which he plainly lost. He's charged with actual crimes, criminal intent to obscure, I forget what the actual name of the law is, but criminal intent to basically steal the election or to coerce people in the states from, I forget what it is.

Speaker 2

04:33

And then there's 1 forgery which has to do with the electors scheme, criminal intent for forgery.

Speaker 1

04:41

What is the forgery?

Speaker 2

04:42

That's the slate of electors he was putting forward, the fake slate of electors. And then there was the 1 of...

Speaker 1

04:52

Here it is, we can read it. 3 counts of solicitation of violation of oath by public officer. So he was trying to get someone to violate their oath.

Speaker 1

04:59

2 counts of conspiracy to commit forgery in the first degree. 2 counts of conspiracy to commit forgery in the first degree. 2 counts of conspiracy to commit false statements and writing. 2 counts of false statements and writings.

Speaker 1

05:08

Violation of a Georgia RICO Act. Conspiracy to commit impersonating a public officer. I wonder what that is. Conspiracy to commit filing false documents and filing false documents.

Speaker 1

05:20

And this is all based on the election results.

Speaker 2

05:23

Well there's also felony solicitation of violation of oath. Felony solicitation of violation of oath by a public officer. That was when he was talking to Raffsenberger, that's the, I need you to fine me 11,000 votes.

Speaker 2

05:39

There's also 1... I mean, there's 2 cases about trying to steal the election. 1, the national case that Jack Smith is prosecuting, then there's the 1 in Georgia. Now they cross paths in a lot, but basically, I mean, yes, he tried every possible way to steal this election.

Speaker 2

05:57

He tried to do it through the courts. He tried to do it through state legislatures. He tried to do it through intimidating Mike Pence. He tried to do it through the Justice Department.

Speaker 2

06:06

They talked about seizing voting machines. They talked about using the army. I mean, you can't really believe that this guy is not worse than Joe Biden. I mean, I agree, Biden is not a great president.

Speaker 2

06:20

And the Hunter Biden stuff is a stinky conspiracy, not a conspiracy, a stinky scandal that stinks to the high heavens. If you think that that in any way compares to what Trump tried to do, you just cannot tell unlike things apart

Speaker 1

06:35

and you're saying this just based on what happened after the election just that stuff

Speaker 2

06:42

yes well that's that's the criminal part yes

Speaker 1

06:45

have you ever tried to steal man his position like do you think he really believes they stole the election or you think he's bullshitting?

Speaker 2

06:51

Who gives a fuck? It doesn't matter.

Speaker 1

06:52

Who gives a fuck?

Speaker 2

06:53

Who gives a fuck if he really believes it?

Speaker 1

06:55

But, I mean, if he really believes there's evidence that the election was rigged.

Speaker 2

06:59

No, I don't care. No. First of all, that was part of the January 6th Committee's findings.

Speaker 2

07:04

He has multiple people, all the people around him told him that he lost that election, including Bill Barr, you know, and he admitted, there's 1 of his quotes that they have on record of him saying I don't want people to know I lost this election That's kind of crazy. What he's crazy.

Speaker 1

07:25

That's kind of crazy I

Speaker 2

07:26

mean, it's it's insane that you can't let go of the idea that you can't be seen as a loser. There's a certain... There's a...

Speaker 2

07:33

He is... There is a... I always said this in the beginning. It all comes back to that he is a clinical case of malignant narcissism.

Speaker 2

07:41

It's not just a quirk. It's actually in the big book of crazy, you know? That... I mean, it's a real thing and it affects everything he thinks and does.

Speaker 2

07:51

It's why foreign leaders were able to curry favor with him. All they had to do was kiss his ass and they got whatever they wanted. Do I really think that he wants to help Russia and Putin. I think Putin had him as soon as he said, Trump is a brilliant man.

Speaker 2

08:08

Good, you got me. It doesn't take that much. He's a dangerous guy. The idea that he could be president again, as opposed to Joe Biden, again, Joe Biden, not my first choice, not my hundredth choice, but the other guy is a crazy, stupid criminal.

Speaker 1

08:30

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